“Teen Sex Forum to Include Gay Speakers”
March 8th, 2007 by Peter
Our opponents say it is FIC that is focused on sex and “social engineering.” But I didn’t write the headline for this thread–today’s Connecticut Post did. What our opponents really mean is that when things like this happen FIC should keep mum.
Well, we politely decline their invitation to avert our eyes from the sex-related social engineering that our opponents themselves are pushing on our state’s youth. Here’s a link and an excerpt to go with that headine:
MILFORD — Gays and lesbians will be invited to participate in an upcoming forum on teen sexuality, officials said Wednesday, after at least one complaint that they were being excluded.
“This isn’t about values,” Mayor James L. Richetelli Jr. said. “This is about keeping our young people safe in their relationships.”
The decision to include gays and lesbians in the March 29 “Sex in the Suburbs” forum comes after one person complained to Milford Library Director Jean Tsang that homosexual relationships did not seem to be covered in the presentation.
Tsang said she referred the matter to the Milford Youth Services Network, the forum’s chief sponsor, at its monthly meeting.
Marcia Winter, the city’s grants administrator and a member of the Mary Taylor Memorial United Methodist Church, said the church’s Open and Affirming Committee will be asked to help in the outreach to gay and lesbian teens.
The congregation, as a matter of policy, welcomes all to worship, regardless of their sexual orientation, according to the Rev. Robert Whitfield.
Mary Taylor Church and the Milford Library will host a screening of the documentary “That’s a Family” at 10:30 a.m. Saturday at the library and will follow the film with a discussion.
The award-winning documentary, recommended for children in grades 1 through 6, shows that different family structures are all based on love and trust, according to church spokeswoman Gina Bonfietti. [emphasis added]
This effort to indoctrinate children is just one of many. But tell our opponents that same-sex “marriage” would alter the definition of marriage and the family for all of society and you will be greeted with (at best) a blank stare.
Yet we have this story suggesting that the 9th Circuit Court may now view the phrase “natural family, marriage and family values” as sufficient to create a hostile work environment for gays and lesbians in California. If this is true it is just another instance of a global agenda to redefine society’s basic institutions:
Use of ‘Mom’ and ‘Dad’ Too “Homophobic”, Scottish Nurses Told
By Gudrun Schultz
EDINBURGH, Scotland, February 16, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Nurses and other health care professionals should avoid using the terms ‘mom’ and ‘dad’ to refer to family relationships since the terms could be offensive to homosexual couples with children, a new directive published by Scotland’s National Health Service recommends…
Along the same lines, the directive points out, use of the terms ‘husband’, ‘wife’ and ‘marriage’ is not acceptable since such terms exclude lesbian, gay and bisexual people. Instead, health care workers should use the terms ‘partners’ and ‘next of kin’. Since ‘next of kin’ is often understood to mean nearest blood relative, however, the booklet recommends that it may be preferable to use ‘partner, close friend or close relative’ to avoid confusion.
In the face of these increasing assaults on faith, family and common sense we will not be silenced and we will not be diverted–and especially not at the request of those pushing this nonsense in the first place. Make no mistake: our opponents are the cultural aggressors, we’re the ones playing defense. If they want us to go away or do something else they must first take Steve’s advice in the previous thread:
Stop pushing for radical changes in marriage and stop killing unborn children. If you guys on the left would stop initiating & pushing for all this nutty stuff, then we on the right will stop our opposition. Simple…
Indeed, the problems facing the family are serious. Why then are you attempting to further complicate the matter by performing yet another crazy liberal social experiment on the next generation? Stop already.
Chele,
The information your looking for is listed several times in the Old Testament, mostly in the Pentatuch (all major western religions based off), how a man is not to “spill his seed”, that it was a crime in jewish law. As for Jesus, He says in the New Testament, “I didn’t come to abolish the law but rather to fulfill it.”
Now for eastern religions I do not know what their take is on this self indulgent subject, I would hope to guess that they frown upon it as well. I don’t know. If your agnostic, well then you will just have to go by your own moral beliefs or non-beliefs. If your Atheist your confused, due to the fact that in order for you not to “believe” in something, there has to be something there for you not to “believe” in. Let’s not forget that God himself doens’t believe in Atheists.
Let’s call it quits on this subject. Can we at least agree on that parnets need to parent, and it shoudln’t be left up to the school system to for the innocent, impresionable minds of our youth.
See you on the next thread. God bless, Ave Maria.
Bryce
Bryce,
“If your Atheist your confused, due to the fact that in order for you not to “believe” in something, there has to be something there for you not to “believe” in.”
I hate to pick a fight, but this seems like pretty convoluted logic. I don’t believe in Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy, does that mean they must exist?
Please don’t think I’m comparing belief in God to belief in the Tooth Fairy per se, but I don’t see how the logic of your statement applies in any meaningful way to atheists. (I can see how “belief in God” exists, and I’m sure most atheists would agree on that point.)
Can you explain?
Doug,
It’s true that we can’t conduct a census of every researcher, but it doesn’t follow that the default position is “all hypotheses about the collective beliefs of researchers are true.”
I’ll admit that I’m basing my speculation about the conclusions of researchers based on a limited sample: the published materials which come to my attention and oral reports from the small circle of evolutionary biologists I include among my friends.
Do you propose the opposite contention to be true, that is, that more than half of researchers in the field believe sexual orientation is caused primarily by environmental factors? Or do you insist that, per the fallacy of Loki’s Wager, such a conjecture is simply unknowable?
You didn’t answer me, Bryce, as to whether you believe everyone should be forced to live by Catholic doctrine, and whether state and federal laws should be based on Catholic doctrine.
At the risk of being a nitpicker, the “seed” reference to which Bryce is referring actually has nothing to do with, well, you know.
It actually is a reference to a man with whom God was angry for avoiding the obligation of levirate marriage. Levirate marriage was the custom of a man taking his deceased kinsman’s wife and having children by her so that the dead man’s family line would not be extinguished.
You can read about the seed episode in Genesis 38. The idea of levirate marriage also features prominently in the Book of Ruth.
Nick,
At the risk of being a nitpicker of a nitpicker, the punishment for violating the levirate law was public humiliation, not death. See Deuteronomy 25:5 – 10. But when Onan “spilled his seed”, (the episode in Genesis 38) he was punished with death.
Many scholars and saints have commented on this. For example, Saint Augustine: “Intercourse even with one’s legitimate wife is unlawful and wicked where the conception of the offspring is prevented. Onan, the son of Juda, did this and the Lord killed him for it.”
I would say that Bryce is on pretty firm ground given the above.
When will FIC introduce an anti-Masturbation bill at the legislature?
That certainly would be a hoot! I could just see you at the public hearing extolling its benefits…
Certainly would be more of a hoot hearing you guys talk about how you don’t spill your seed and nobody else should either — unless it’s into an appropriate, maritally-approved female vagina. Oh. Or through that rape thing. Just so long as that seed is directed at an egg, willing or not.
I’m all in favor of guys masturbating if it will stop them from raping people — and that goes for all these priests who assault little boys.
Yikes! Is there still any hope for Chele having a sense of humor after that last response to Steve? Quick, Chele! Send us the dancing cat video again!
Phil,
You are trying to paint me into a corner that you painted.
I did not mention “half.”
You did, right after you mentioned “wildly inaccurate.”
Chele,
God gave us free will to choose to serve him or not. Therefore your question is null and void due to the fact that God does not “force” anything upon us. Therefore as followers of Christ, we can not “force” others to love God, because He doesn’t “force” us.
However God does expect us to proclaim our faith, and live it out in our daily lives. He wants us to be shepards to the “lost” flocks of sheep.
It is in my humble opinion that if indeed our society was Catholic in laws and morals than there wouldn’t be a need for the FIC. There wouldn’t be any practicing homosexuals, premartial sex, contraception, abortion, drugs, murder… Don’t worry the end times are coming, you’ll find out.
Doug,
I seem to have misinterpreted your use of the word “consensus.” Did you mean anything by it?
I have a great sense of humor, Peter. And honestly, I do spend time with other people, laughing at you guys. Because… gosh, just read this stuff!! You’ve got guys ranting about “self-abuse” and I’m expecting to hear about hair on their palms next.
But. Truth is, after the giggles, it remains that I really think you guys are a threat. I think you’re a threat to faith and religion, cynically using them for partisan politics. I think you’re a threat to women. I think you’re a threat to freedom and Constitutional rights. So at the end of the day, you’re really not all that funny.
Jeepers Peter. You’re a threat to faith, religion, women, freedom and constitutional rights. I didn’t realize that you guys had such an impact. (My check’s in the mail.) What’s remarkable is how you have managed to become such a threat without a shred of credibility…
Hat’s off.
BTW, the phrase “without a shred of credibility” is a link…
(Question to geeks – How does one highlight a hyperlink in the threads?)