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December 7th, 2006 by Peter
Our new FIC blog is off and running, sparking commentary all across the web. The inclusion of Connecticut Local Politics on our “Opponents” blogroll provoked criticism from liberal bloggers Colin McEnroe, Connecticut Bob, Spazeboy and others claiming that CLP is a centrist blog that we have falsely categorized as liberal. And yet it is a complaint that we are only hearing from the Left. To date, not a single conservative blogger has joined their liberal brethren in rallying to CLP’s defense.
Anyway, we have added CLP’s fellow liberals to the blogroll at their request.
Our 2006 archives are also now available for viewing. Just go to the Archives box in the right margin and click on the month you are looking for.
It’s funny that you earlier praised Spazeboy for his amiable tone, even while he was debating you, yet he is on your list of opponents…
i think the internet might be a homosexual
Matt,
Spazeboy and others are indeed our intellectual opponents. That does not mean that we can never say anything kind or good about them. Our “Opponents List” is simply meant to point out who opposes us on our key issues. We think they are wrong on these issues. We will debate them vigorously. But we will also be civil and say we agree with them when we agree with them.
Spazeboy disagrees with us on broad issues, but on the particular issue we were debating he was the only one who offered a clear solution. Post a screenshot of our statistics. We did that, and it shows clearly that we were not lying about anything.
Speaking only for myself:
CLP, which I write for, is a group blog and, unlike some group blogs (like Kos or RedStates) has perspectives that are odds with each other. I think the atribution of one point of view (any point of view) to a blog that has between 1 and 7 people writing for it, all from different points of view, is what caused some bloggers to note what they noted.
That said, I’m pretty sure they weren’t complaining that CLP was included – they were complaining that they weren’t included!
Again speaking only for myself, as to “coming to our defense”, being on your Opponents List requires no defense. RIL – The thing speaks for itself. I am proud to be associated with a blog on your Opponents List.
Gabe
Gabe, liberal bloggers were complaining–expressing shock, in fact–that CLP was included on our opponents blogroll because they deem it to be centrist. Their complaint about their own more leftward sites not being included was within that context.
Their defense, or defensiveness, stems from their conviction that we have mischaracterized CLP as liberal, a complaint that we are only hearing from liberals.
Gabe certainly speaks for me. I didn’t mind CTLP being included. They strike me, frankly, as a shady group of characters who bear watching. But to include them but not me — that was an outrage. Beyond!!
I’m not sure Spazeboy deserves to be an opponent of the opponents of homosexuality. You should the see the women that guy gets.
FIC owes Colin and the liberal bloggers a big thank you. Their envy over not being included on the opponents list (a sort of online cook kids table if you will) has provided this blog with an explosion of free publicity.
Spazeboy disagrees with us on broad issues, but on the particular issue we were debating he was the only one who offered a clear solution. Post a screenshot of our statistics. We did that, and it shows clearly that we were not lying about anything.
What you posted proved clearly that you had deceived your readers. Whether through deliberate attempts or ignorance, a deception is a lie.
Also I told you to put up a public sitemeter to prove me wrong. That was a most reasonable answer to your problem.
I was correct in everything that I wrote, and yet you don’t cosider that reasonable enough for your site?
Now, you have said recently after realizing that what I pointed out was correct:
An apology may be in order here. Perhaps he thinks that hits are not the best indicator of readership. The more I learn, the more I agree with that.
Yet instead of actually making an apolgy you go into a HUGE BUT BUT BUT:
But, please, don’t accuse someone of lying without taking some basic steps to get your facts straight.
P.S. Drinking Liberally still can’t admit to the fact that he was wrong, plain and simple.
I am therefore including a link to a screenshot of our statistics (following Spazeboy’s advice, who has been the most civil in this discussion) that shows clearly we were not lying. Period. We never lied, attempted to deceive, or distorted the numbers. Drinking Liberally got it completely wrong.
I had my facts straight.
I am tempted to say that your embarrassment at having been called out BIG TIME by those pesky LIBERAL FACTS may be what is holding you back from actually making an apology, and from acknowledging that I am not only an opponent, but in fact a reasonable one. Reasonaqble enopugh that I even forewarned you that I would be calling you out on your readership.
This vanity you are exhibiting only further exemplifies the points of what I wrote about your being a pious fraud, etc., something that I told you in the comments I was quite reasonably willing to retract or amend if you could prove me wrong. Something I am still willing to do IF you actually ever make an apology to your readers for the deceptions, and IF you consider ammending the posts that label me as drunk and unreasonable for pointing out these facts about your deceptions.
Clearly you have not proven me wrong in any of my charges. BUT I am willing to give you a SECOND CHANCE to prove me wrong on the points about your character.
It won’t change the fact that I disagree with you on almost every topic you write about – since I am for Marriage Equality, Pro-Choice, against public money for private schools, believe strongly in The Wall of Seperation, etc. etc. – but that is a different story…
CGG, you’re right about the liberal bloggers throwing some attention our way. Thanks.